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But that the reasons alleged do not prove it either to be

not-good or the Chief Good is plain from the following

considerations.

First. Good being either absolute or relative, of course the

natures and states embodying it will be so too; therefore also

the movements and the processes of creation. So, of those which

are thought to be bad some will be bad absolutely, but relatively

not bad, perhaps even choice-worthy; some not even choice-worthy

relatively to any particular person, only at certain times or for

a short time but not in themselves choice-worthy.

Others again are not even Pleasures at all though they produce

that impression on the mind: all such I mean as imply pain and

whose purpose is cure; those of sick people, for instance.